Do you believe that the wolves are making the deer population rise?

I really like hunter opinions but i have seen some sites that tell me that wolves are helping deer and wolves are ruining deer. PLEASE give opinions that do not threaten.Do you believe that the wolves are making the deer population rise?
There are more deer in North America than there was when the pilgrims landed here.


Proper conservation %26amp; game management, this includes hunting, are directly responsible.





The wolf population, and current over population in some areas, may have a small role in the higher deer population(culling the weak, injured and slow), but it's man's intervention that has assured a healthy, robust deer population for decades in the USA.Do you believe that the wolves are making the deer population rise?
Many groups on both sides of this controversial issue are going to try to make data support their objective. In my opinion wolves are simply a natural predator, feeding mostly on the old and weak populations of a herd. Hunters, whether hunting for food or for sport tend to desire more robust individuals. Hunters and wolves both help to keep local deer populations in check. If deer populations reach stressful levels, there are many negative side effects: starvation and migrations into urban areas.


Personally, I don't see how having a natural predator around could increase the deer population. From my wildlife biology experience, wolves simply act as another method of population control similar to that of hunters. Some hunters may argue that this is bad for deer populations because it reduces the number of tags issued for deer in their area, but this is really more of an argument for hunters than for deer.





This is really the first I've heard of this controversy of wolves and deer populations. The controversy in these parts is generated around wolves not sticking to their natural prey and going after rancher's livestock.





If you want to look into some numbers, you could contact your local fish, wildlife, and parks. They keep pretty precise records on deer and wolf populations.
I don't believe wolves are making the deer population rise, but I do believe they are making the population healthier by weeding out the weak.





I also believe having so many deer to feed on, the deer have made the population of wolves increase to the point that we now have a new game animal, and I would like to express my appreciation to all that have made this possible.





Thanks for asking my opinion.
based on my personal and extensive observations on the subject, the wolves in Idaho are decimating the elk, and the deer herds. Since their re introduction, herds have reduced dramatically. And I was one of the people who said, let's give them a chance and see what happens. Well, we tried, and it was a mistake. That's why Idaho is opening a limited permit hunt for wolves, to reduce them back to a mangeable population that will stop destroying the herds.


Good question, asked in a very nicely worded way. I'm giving you a star.


NOTE: too bad you had to go back and add the insult and mistaken info, I was impressed with you right up until you got foolish with your addition.
no I do not believe that


what I do believe is that we should have never reintroduced them........had we not done that then you anti hunters would have no reason to continually come on here and blast us for doing something that is 100 percent legal.......well you have no reason to come on here and blast us period.......why do you wolf lovers keep coming here and putting us down for doing something that is legal.........deal with it or try to get the laws changed.......coming here and ranting about it is not going to change anything
How could a population of wolves possibly make deer populations increase?





They can lower the population and that in turn can help deer have less competition and become more healthy but thats the only way wolves are going to ever indirectly help deer lol
Thank you for your input regarding wolves.* I did not know that was the case.*
Killing a wolf is not ';murder';, it's a Public Service. There should be an award for it!





They are animals. If you think that a wolf is as valuable as a human life, you have some serious mental issues and should seek professional counselling immediately for diagnosis and treatment. Really, I'm concerned that you may have a problem separating fantasy from reality.





Wolves have not been introduced as an alien species into enough US environments to affect deer populations one way or another. I say 'alien species' because the wolves being re-introduced into some areas in the US are not the same kind of wolves that lived here historically. So they are not natural at all.





If you feel that your argument that wolves ';help'; deer populations will help to win some hunters over to your side, I think you have made some serious miscalculations about how simple it is to fool people. We know deer get along just fine without wolves. We also know that wolves, even though we are talking about very small numbers here, have already proven themselves to be dangerous to humans and livestock and that it is only a matter of time before a wolf kills a human. That is, if it hasn't already happened and it's being covered up.





Just a while back, I was in New Mexico a good 100 miles from where wolves were ';re-introduced'; and a local town was being threatened by scavanging wolves, who boldly were coming into populated areas to hunt.





Did you see this on the national news? Hell no, the failure of reintroducing a dangerous predator into populated states has to be covered up, because they have already spent millions on it and poor misguided people like you have so much emotion invested into helping the wolf. They will continue to lie until the truth comes out, then they will blame hunters and ranchers and other rural people for the failure.





STOP SPENDING MY TAX DOLLARS ON WOLVES! We are just going to kill them all anyway!
a population is mainly grounded on it's food supply. A world with just grass and no wolves, deer would be just fine. However, populations do tend to be cyclical. The deer population would grow and grow and grow, and then there would be too many deer, not enough grass, and there would be a huge starve-off. With so few deer left, the grass would recover, and the deer population would grow and grow and grow and again overshoot the carrying capacity of the land by a large margin, and have a huge starve off. Repeat, repeat, repeat.





Introduce predators, they start killing deer, so the population doesn't grow so fast, hence when it overshoots the carrying capacity, it doesn't overshoot it by such a large margin. This means the die-back still happens, but not as harshly as before.





Predators tend to stablize a population, but the predators themselves with go through a boom-or-bust situation.





Except with predators like wolves in our world, rather than starving, there is a strong chance the wolves would instead strike out for parts unknown, in some ways this is good, it is how wolves from Minnesota spread to Wisconson. This is okay as long as the habitat can sustain them. However, this is also when wolves go into the cities and start eating cats and dogs the way coyotes do now, and this is also when wolves start eating livestock. Even the wolves that move to new wild areas, eventually all of them will be filled too.





So just as wolves stablize the deer population, we need to stablize the wolf population. In fact, in small areas like this the population of wolves can overshoot the deer food supply so badly that the deer cannot recover and ALL the wolves end up starving or leaving or eating cattle.





Remember 2 wolves mate and have an average litter of 4 pups who live to adulthood. A pair of wolves on average has 5 litters of pups in a lifetime. so 2 becomes 20, wich becomes 200, which becomes 2000, --%26gt; 20,000--%26gt;200,000!





Obviously the starvation die-off happens before that.





However, if with hunting you can stablize the population at say 800, all is good
The wolves will clense the deer population in a natural way by eliminating the week and diseased ones. Without wolves, the deer population will explode. There is a reason these animals all exist and it is to maintain the natural order and populations as whole.