Friday, February 5, 2010

Best round for both deer and varmits?

I don't have much large deer around my area so i'm wondering what would be a generally good round to go with for both hunting both medium/small deer and hogs. I already have a good 30-06 but was wanting to look into a second rifle in a 243 or maybe even up to a 308. Any suggestions?Best round for both deer and varmits?
If you REALLY want a gun that does everything your 30-06 does but in a less effective way you can use 140 grain Barnes bullets in your 30-06 instead of 165 grains.





If you really NEED a gun for both deer and hogs, the 243 is minimum. I would look at a nice shooting 6.5 x 55 Swede or a 7 x 57 Mauser. The 6.5 Swede is one of the sweetest packages imaginable. Soft recoil, great ballistics, amazing Sectional Densities. They use the 6.5 for moose in Scandinavian countries. It is used for boar hunting and Ibex. Best to handload, but ammo is available in most markets easily enough.Best round for both deer and varmits?
I have a .270 that I use for bear (successfully) and deer and the occasional coyote. Its great! Flat shooting and reliable with minimal kick, but still good power. Its perfect for a deer, and maybe a little much for varmints, but will do the job. The .243 is also a good cartridge for deer and hogs and varmints. I would suggest though if you already have a 30.06 to get a very different gun. The .270 and the 30.06 are similar (same with the .243 too). If I were you I would use the 30.06 and maybe get a real small gun like a .22 or something bigger like a .300 mag. But is up to you and depends on your hunting style and conditions.
There are several calibers that you might like, but it all depends on what kind of hog hunting you want to do. If you just want to kill them, the 30-06 you have, or a .270 winchester will do nicely. If you are looking for a trophy hog for a nice unique outdoor looking mount, a .243 would be max, but would do great damage to the smaller animals. Other rounds that are on the margin between deer and small game are: .257 Roberts, .250 Savage, .25-06, .260 rem, basically anything from .24 cal to .26 cal.
For a deer/varmint combo, I'd look for a rifle in either .250-3000 Savage, or .257 Roberts.





Both are mild of report and gentle in recoil. They produce good velocity for long range varmint shooting with light bullets, and with heavy bullets are fine deer cartridges.





FWIW, the .308 Win is my favorite .30 caliber cartridge, but it is much better for deer than varmints. You will find the recoil tiring during a long day shooting prairie dogs or rock chucks.





Doc
Whooo Boy..... That's a tall order.... The minimum size cartridge I suggest for deer is the .243....





On the other hand the .243 is a decent varmint cartridge......





There really isnt a cartridge that's good for both deer and varmints.....





I really recommend you have 2 rifles.... One for deer -- Your 30-06 is fine for that.... and another rifle chambered in a common varmint cartridge...





.223, 22-250 and .243 come to mind....





I happen to prefer the .223 because so many of my rifles are chambered in that. Bulk ammo is also cheap and its a very common caliber....





.223 cartridge guide.....


http://www.6mmbr.com/223Rem.html





If you really want to do varmint and small deer / hogs then .243 it is....


http://www.6mmbr.com/243Win.html
Among the popular ones, there isn't a lot of choice. 257 Roberts is the ideal dual-purpose cartridge. Its ability to handle 117 grain bullets better than 250 Savage gives it an edge, and 25-06 is a bit overbore for general varminting. The 6 mm's aren't nearly so good for deer, despite the popularity of the 243, and once you get up to 6.5's, you're really shooting a bit much for vermin.
The .30-06 you have is a great all-around gun. It comes in a variety of loads and bullets, so you can use it on all sorts of game. The .308 would basically be a duplicate of the .30-06, so for a second gun, I'd go with a .243 or .223.
well, the 243 can take varmints and deer, but is not suitable for large hogs, you could get a .270 winchester for longrange or a 30-30 if your hunting in close quarters.
Once again Falconry hits the nail on the head 6.5X55mm my Husquavarna drives tacks a pleasure to reload for %26amp; no recoil chucks deer moose you name it it hits it.
.270 bullet will go from 90 grains to 180 grains,check it out here:http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.a鈥?/a>
.270 is the one. It is as flat shooting a round as you will find and good for varmints up to and including elk.
for small game get a .17 HMR it will kill anything from a coyote down





http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/1鈥?/a>








here is a good one
I would highly reckomend a 243. I use 100 grain bullets for deer. They are a flat fast shooting rifle with little kick and a big punch.
.270 w/ 110gr or 130 gr bullit.
go with a .223 Ruger Ranch Rifle it's a very compact and fun shooting gun but packs enough punch to take out a deer with good shot
stick with the 30-06 it will do everything you listed!

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